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Ex-B&T staff to march through Frome in mass demo

Last post 05-06-2008 03:33 PM by Matt Whipp. 41 replies.
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  • 05-04-2008 05:41 PM In reply to

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    first Frome then Somerset next The South West after that England followed by Britain and now the good old US of A next the world COME ON . Dolan your "reputation" is now in tatters globally, Shame!. Give us what we are owed you ?>. All my opinion of course

  • 05-04-2008 07:11 PM In reply to

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    absolutely magic reggie up the city!

  • 05-04-2008 08:19 PM In reply to

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    We need to get the liquidation process moving. I am told that the more big creditors who put pressure on Mr Dolan to hold a meeting the harder it will become for him to stall. So any of you out there owed cash please do us a favour and put the screws on. Thanks!

  • 05-04-2008 09:06 PM In reply to

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    Well said Henry...a wind up petition is overdue. Send to the High Court, Royal Courts of Justice Companies Court TM 2.09 Strand London WC2A 2LL Tel. 020 7947 6294 Open 10.00am to 4.00pm Monday to Friday (except August - closes at 2.30pm)

  • 05-04-2008 09:11 PM In reply to

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    How do I wind up a company? If a company owes you money and has refused or neglected to pay the debt, you may apply to wind it up by presenting a petition to court for that purpose. A winding-up petition is usually presented by a creditor on the grounds that the company cannot pay its debts and this has to be proved to the court. How do I prove to the court that the company cannot pay its debts? The court will regard a company as being unable to pay its debts if any of the following occurs: A creditor who is owed more than £750 serves a 'statutory demand' (Form 4.1) for the money due and it is not paid or secured, or a settlement is not agreed, within 21 days. You can get the form for a statutory demand from your local court or from The Insolvency Service's web site at www.insolvency.gov.uk. The completed form must be served on the company at its registered office. The creditor must have proof of service, so it is usual to employ a process server (these are listed in Yellow Pages under 'detective agencies'). The court is not involved in issuing statutory demands, so no court fee is payable. However, the company can dispute the statutory demand and apply to court for an order restraining the creditor from presenting a winding up petition. A creditor obtains judgment against the company and execution is unsatisfied; in other words the sheriff or bailiff is unable to seize enough assets to clear the debt. You can get the forms to issue a claim for judgment from your local court or from the Court Service website at www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk. It is proved to the court that the company cannot pay its debts when they fall due; for example, no payment is made in response to a letter of demand. It is proved to the court that the company's total debts exceed its total assets.

  • 05-05-2008 12:21 PM In reply to

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    Good luck to all ex B&T employees.As an ex quebecor workerI know how hard the next few months will be As the government will only pay out a max of £330 for every week as redundancy and money in liu.We had a banked hours system and by luck we got some of that back but I think we have all lost money in the pension.

  • 05-05-2008 01:43 PM In reply to

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    As creditors we should all download copies of statutory demand form 4.1. Fill it out and hire a process server to serve them en masse, i will enquire of Unite if this is a possible tactic.

  • 05-05-2008 07:54 PM In reply to

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    The Man at the Top - this is my personal opinion:- Ever seen Spiderman? "With great power comes great responsibility" - a memorable line from the film and very appropriate in so many walks of life. If you take over the reins of a company you hold the hopes, welfare and aspirations of the workforce in the palm of your hand. Our workforce was skilled, flexible and approachable we had reacted to the firms circumstances in the past, given up much and if honestly dealt with we were set to do so again. In good faith, we went through a painfuly protracted negotiation - making progress was like swimming through treacle but we nearly got there, however, at the end of the day, agreement could not be made. You can give way on money, hours and manning levels but you cannot give up your basic rights, fought for by generations of workers before you. The man that held the power at B&T's didn't see us as human beings, no, we were just money making machines that happened to be made of flesh and blood instead of iron and steel. He judged us by his own standards and thefore trusted us not one iota. This was a man who probably cheated at solitare, loved control and when he heard the words "no - you can't have it" the toys flew from the pram. ......And so he left us in the most spiteful circumstances he could engineer. The company closed down yet not closed down. Paperwork and data needed to move on left behind locked doors - policed by gulf war veterans. Suspicions of ulterior motives for the closure. Lies about the union officials still echoing in the media. Unpaid wages and pension contributions owed, with the taxpayer left to pick up the bill. But he couldn't break our community spirit and he couldn't break the trust between workmates who had trained, grafted, laughed and on occasion grieved together. And this colossal strop has come at a price. All his media experience and spin-doctoring ability could not stop the public and media seeing through the facade. They know that no upright, responsible employer treats his workforce this way even in the direst circumstances. So there he cowers, like a vampire of commerce, unable to face the BBC cameras, distrusted by suppliers - a pariah in the industry. I will move on, as we all will, but i won't forget the way you backed your union officials and the trust help and encouragement i personaly recieved from you. Thanks - and thanks to Print Week for giving us this forum in which to vent our spleen.

  • 05-05-2008 08:36 PM In reply to

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    "The man at the top" - brilliantly put. Thank you. Judith

  • 05-06-2008 01:15 PM In reply to

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    Very well put Mark, most of us in the trade do feel that B&T was worth saving. Indeed the UK print industry is poorer without it. This man Dolan should at least try and find a buyer when there is something to sell. Then this creature can creep back under his stone, with without looking over his shoulder.

  • 05-06-2008 01:50 PM In reply to

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    well said hezza........perhaps u oughta send a copy of that to the newspapers and perhaps one to the hatchet man himself??!!

  • 05-06-2008 03:33 PM In reply to

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     Thanks timebomb (in reply to an earlier post on this thread)

    ticking timebomb:

    brett watch ur language

    - we appreciate the emotive nature of the issue here - but please all bear in mind that if someone points out any offensive content (or other content contravening our policy) we will have to take it down. So when you guys step up to the mark and police yourselves in terms of bad language and so on, it generally makes for a more constructive and helpful discussion for everyone. Thanks again, Matt
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